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荒漠孤舟
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大家来看f1,赛车场上最公平

找了好久也没有谁说f1的。 异常失望


虽说今年有上海站比赛,f1中国关注的人更多了,但是04年的车明显没有去年的好看,基本上和02年的差不多。法拉利没什么好说的也没什么好看的了,我一向喜欢的阿隆索今年也没什么特别抢眼的,不过今年巴顿虽然开的本田车子,可成绩真是不错。


赛车场是最公平,车子虽好未必赢,雷诺本田照样行。

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2004-08-13 03:29 AM 发表 | 举报这个帖子 | 查看荒漠孤舟 的IP地址 | 编辑/删除 | 引用/回复


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公平什么啊~车子好当然未必一定赢,但赢面比人家要大很多啊~象XXX车队。。。象XXX。。。你说这个赛场上就绝对公平了么~只有不依靠技术力量的比赛才有可能用公平来形容吧~

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2004-08-13 10:51 AM 发表 | 举报这个帖子 | 查看墓中使者 的IP地址 | 编辑/删除 | 引用/回复


Willy
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就是,赛车场上最不公平了,你看xxxx车队,车手换来换去,永远垫底,可怜啊!!!

要说公平,自行车最公平,大家的车都差不多的,所以说阿姆斯特朗牛逼!

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阿姆斯特朗比别人少点东西
负担轻
所以老跑第一

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那以后要想拿LE TOUR DE FRANCE,还得找X庸医~恩~

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以前老看F1来的后来发现老是一个人拿第一就不看了
现在改看摩托车比赛了.
原来比F1还刺激的
F1全是钱烧出来的.虽然摩托车也是钱烧出来的

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显拿死后我就不怎么看了。。。

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依靠技术力量就不公平,未必吧,竞技项目可都是比技术的比意志品质的,中国的跳水乒乓球也都是技术领先,只不过是人的技术和工业技术的差别而已,再者竞技项目投入少了当然出不了好成绩。

话说回来,xxx车队确实总拿冠军,可我想看xxx的人现在不多了吧。竞技体育精神的拼搏和刺激我想要远比胜利的结果要值得关注的多。xxxx作为小车队,门槛自然低,这也为更多车手进入f1赛事创造了条件。阿隆索就是米纳尔蒂出来的。

退一步想,既然不看冠军,那不妨看看亚军,我一向看好雷诺,今年本田引擎赛车也不错,巴顿也好,这也打破了老三甲的垄断,今天晚上的排位赛纪实频道,有兴趣地看看。

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Willy
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quote:
赛车场是最公平,车子虽好未必赢
你说,技术不能决定输赢,所以很公平
quote:
依靠技术力量就不公平,未必吧
你说,就算技术力量决定输赢,也是公平的。

那你要说什么呢。。。

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quote:
今天晚上的排位赛纪实频道,有兴趣地看看

我觉得这句是关键句

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Willy
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我回家刚好结束。。。 明天决赛也来不及看了,与门

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2004-08-14 10:44 PM 发表 | 举报这个帖子 | 查看Willy 的IP地址 | 编辑/删除 | 引用/回复


Kliff
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因为与门而郁闷?

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Willy
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因为或门而开心!

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荒漠孤舟
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车子好车手也会出错,车子不好的雷诺有时照样超法拉利


匈牙利幸好你们没看,我紧赶慢赶赶回家,看了一场异常无聊的比赛。。。
本来就是低速跑道。舒马赫一冲,巴里切罗一挡,一二名没了。雷诺起步好看,阿隆索超到第三。好啦,比赛结束。。。。

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环法也很好看的诶

armstrong暴0的

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若溯桐
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还是喜欢维兰克多一点,他儿女漂亮死了,有些外国小孩子小时候真是漂亮的没话说

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Willy
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的确,昨天我看得困死了。。。

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巴里切罗这个世界上最好的卫兵……实在是,

我觉得雷诺的起步系统在上海值得推广,十字路口红灯转绿灯的时候你看那些司机急得……

你们表说有什么技术因素,舒马赫离开贝纳通去法拉利的时候法拉利的车就叫做“红色拖拉机”,舒马赫不照样拿了三个分站冠军。

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荒漠孤舟
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等了两个礼拜,比利时有突破

首先等了一年,终于下雨了,雨天看车子开不错

其次,法拉利的杆位没了,我早说雷诺强,不过这次占了轮胎便宜,而且还是特鲁利第一,阿隆索只有第三,稍感不爽,可毕竟是今年难得的

再有,巴里切罗在改建的赛道出口犯了错误,没有了他的挡差,加上雷诺的起步,相信法拉利起步是没什么希望了

但愿明天下雨,像今天一样,即使舒马赫这样的人物都会犯错,比赛自然好看

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Willy
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雨人万岁!哈哈

主要是天气帮忙,舒米出来的时候如果雨没有下大的话,还是草歌其他人的~

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formula1.com


Qualifying - selected driver quotes


The drivers on their afternoon at Spa-Francorchamps

True to its fickle reputation, the weather at Spa threw the proverbial
spanner into the works for Saturday's all-important qualifying session in
Belgium, as the drivers involved explained.




Jarno Trulli, Renault (1st, 1m 56.232s):
"This afternoon, we took a gamble and it paid off. We were watching the
cars that went out before me in qualifying very closely to judge whether we
could use the intermediate tyres or not. I thought it could work,
particularly in the second and third sectors, so we took the risk, and the
team did a great job to react so quickly. On the lap itself, everything
went smoothly: the handling of the R24 was good, and I would even say I
could have gone slightly quicker. It has been tough for me in recent races,
so I hope that I will be able to turn this pole position into a strong
result tomorrow."

Michael Schumacher, Ferrari (2nd, 1m 56.304s):
“The weather conditions meant the session was something of a lottery, as
we had not expected that final splash of rain. I can be happy with being on
the front row in second place given the conditions when I made my run. As
for my lap, I struggled a bit at the top of the hill, going sideways into
Turn 5. I think I lost the majority of the time at the last chicane as I
did not have enough traction on the way out, but I have no complaints. We
face a big challenge tomorrow as we know that the Renaults start very well,
but we have also made some very good starts and so I think we can be
competitive in the race.”

Fernando Alonso, Renault (3rd, 1m 56.686s):
"I think that overall, I was lucky today: after I had done the first half
of my timed lap, it started raining again, but fortunately it was not heavy
and I didn't lose too much time. In fact, it was the first time this
weekend that I had run on intermediate tyres, which meant I didn't have
long to adapt to them, and it was quite difficult to find the limit.
However, we had a very good day yesterday and I am optimistic that the car
will be very quick in the dry."

David Coulthard, McLaren (4th, 1m 57.990s):
"I was a little bit worried at the start of my lap as it began to rain.
However, the intermediates we chose to use shortly before my run gave us a
good qualifying time, especially as this was my first lap on these tyres.
The car has been set up for the race with dry weather in mind as is
predicted, so we will have to wait and see tomorrow, but I feel we will
have a strong race."

Giancarlo Fisichella, Sauber (5th, 1m 58.040s):
"Given that the rain spoiled our chances of a really high grid placing
today, I think fifth is a very strong performance. But I feel unlucky that
just before I went out we had to switch from wets to extreme wets as the
rain increased. That cost us performance, for sure. In the dry yesterday we
were very strong, however, so I am optimistic for the race as the forecast
predicts a dry day tomorrow."

Rubens Barrichello, Ferrari (6th, 1m 58.175s):
“Everything went quite well, except that there was a bit more rain when
the last group of five cars went out. The last corner caught me out, even
though I was feeling the tyres were losing a bit of their performance so I
was being careful. I had oversteer and went into a slide, so I suppose to
be in the top six having made a mistake is not too bad. A bit of a
frustrating day, but I’m still optimistic for tomorrow. I don’t mind if
it is wet or dry tomorrow, as the conditions are the same for everyone,
although my car is set up more for the dry than for the wet as we are
expecting drier conditions tomorrow.”

Mark Webber, Jaguar (7th, 1m 58.729s):
“It’s been quite an usual day for us here at Spa as we entered qualifying
having only completed twelve laps in this morning’s practice sessions. The
weather has not been good at all and this has really affected the amount of
running that we have been able to do. Despite this the team has done an
excellent job in preparing the car and as a result the R5 felt
well-balanced going into qualifying this afternoon. It was still raining
when I headed out and we took the decision to be on full-wets. The track
can be tricky to master in these conditions but I am pleased with where we
have ended up. 7th on the grid for tomorrow’s race is good news for us and
of course now we are focusing on the race and our goal to finish in the
points. All the cars are very reliable at the stage on the calendar and the
fight for points is not easy. However, we have a good solid package in the
R5 and we are well-prepared for tomorrow so I am looking forward to getting
out there and racing.”

Felipe Massa, Sauber (8th, 1m 59.008s):
"Between Juan Pablo Montoya and our runs the track got much wetter, so we
were rather unlucky today. By the time I went out for my qualifying lap the
track was completely wet and I got lots of wheelspin whenever I encountered
any white lines. But I am quite happy in such extraordinary circumstances
with eighth place, because I know that we have a good set-up, wet or dry,
for the race tomorrow. It's good that both cars are comfortably in the top
10, and I'm really looking forward to scoring some points."

Olivier Panis, Toyota (9th, 1m 59.552s):
"It was a good qualifying session for us today. I did a very good lap
running with full wet tyres and the team managed everything well in
difficult conditions. We have opted to run a different tyre compound
compared to other Michelin runners this weekend, which worked well in
yesterday's dry practice sessions. To be ninth on the grid with the
strategy we have opted for and the tyres we have selected, I am very
confident that we can have a strong race tomorrow."

Kimi Raikkonen, McLaren (10th, 1m 59.635s):
"Unfortunately it started raining heavily during my run. I made a mistake
in the last chicane, which cost me some time. However, from our performance
yesterday in the dry I think we should be looking OK in the race when the
weather hopefully will be dry again. The overall performance of my car has
been good from the start of the weekend, so I am looking forward to
tomorrow even though I am starting from tenth position."

Juan Pablo Montoya, Williams (11th, 1m 59.681s):
“Bad luck for me in today’s qualifying. The track was starting to dry out
and we decided to use intermediate tyres, like Trulli, Alonso and Coulthard
who went out just before me. However, already on my out lap it started to
rain quite hard, which made it very difficult to keep the car on the track
and as a result I lost a lot of time. There was no grip at all! It’s a
shame because in the morning we looked quite competitive in the wet and in
pre-qualifying I was the second fastest driver on Michelin tyres. Still, I
think we have a very good race car for tomorrow, we have found a good
compromise which will hopefully pay off.”

Jenson Button, BAR (12th, 2m 00.237s):
"It's disappointing to be 12th on the grid as it has been a very long time
since we have had a poor qualifying session. We made the wrong tyre choice
due to the standing water that was on the track and this cost us in our
performance today. However, the car is strong and we are confident for the
race, so with the mixed grid I think we can all look forward to an
interesting Belgian Grand Prix tomorrow."

Christian Klien, Jaguar (13th, 2m 01.246s):
“I was hoping to get some more running completed this morning and I was
certainly disappointed with only having the time to do six laps. The track
conditions were really wet and very greasy out there and this made everyone’
s job more difficult. The guys however have continued to work very hard on
the car and they have done a really good job with the package. The car
feels well balanced and very smooth on track so I am pleased with our
progress. My first qualifying session this afternoon was good but going
into the second session the rain started again when I headed out and I was
probably pushing too hard as well. Although 13th on the grid is still a
good points fighting place and given the complexity of this track I have no
doubt that there will be attrition. I will be looking to make the most of
any opportunity to make my way up the grid and I am certainly excited about
the race.”

Antonio Pizzonia, Williams (14th, 2m 01.447s):
“My qualifying was disappointing, for sure. The lack of running this
morning didn’t help, and I even crashed in the last few minutes. The team
did a really good job in putting the car back together in time so that I
was able to qualify in my race car. Obviously I’m disappointed, but
I’m hoping to have a good race tomorrow. It is possible to overtake here,
as it’s such a long circuit, so we will see what happens.”

Takuma Sato, BAR (15th, 2m 01.813s):
"I'm disappointed with today's result. The rain stopped during the session
and the lap and because we had extreme wet tyres on, they overheated quite
quickly due to the conditions, so I had very poor grip by the end of the
lap. The grid is quite mixed-up for the race tomorrow. We have good
straight-line speed, so we have an opportunity to achieve a solid two-car
points finish, continue to challenge Renault and maintain our third
position in the Championship."

Nick Heidfeld, Jordan (16th, 2m 02.645s):
“I’m not satisfied. Relatively speaking, the car looked really strong
this morning and we were not too far off the top ten and even then I knew
that there was still room to improve further. Then in pre-qualifying and
especially in qualifying, I lost grip and had a very loose rear end. But
that happens: obviously, it’s difficult for everyone to judge the
conditions with so little track time in free practice. But still we have
the race ahead of us and I’m looking forward to that.”

Gianmaria Bruni, Minardi (17th, 2m 02.651s):

Zsolt Baumgartner, Minardi (18th, 2m 03.303s):

Giorgio Pantano, Jordan (19th, 2m 03.833s):
“I’m a little bit surprised because I don’t know what changed between
pre-qualifying and qualifying! It’s so strange to lose 4 seconds from the
first to the second session. The car was different in qualifying, it was
much more slippery. I think there is something wrong, whether it’s the car
or me I don’t know but we need to understand what happened.”

Ricardo Zonta, Toyota (20th, 2m 03.895s):
"My grid position was affected a lot by the mistake I made in the first
qualifying session. There was not much grip on the track due to the large
amount of rain that had fallen all morning. I ran over one of the white
lines around the track, but it was very slippery and I was sent into the
gravel. The team did an incredible job trying to repair the car for the
second qualifying session, but some of the aero parts were damaged, which
unbalanced the car a lot for my second run. I am very sorry for the team,
but I hope our strategy will work to our advantage and enable me to work my
way up through the field."

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Ty3
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据说现在有本叫《F1上海站》的杂志,不知道好不好,想买来看看

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老天……

斯帕就是这么多事的地方,最后只有9辆赛车完赛。
阿隆索莫名其妙的转了两个圈,显然这种典型的蒙托亚错误阿隆索是不会犯的。而且还是两个,很可能使牵引力控制系统出了问题(北极虾说的)。猛男的胎爆了很可惜,本来kimi第一,shumi第二,猛男第三的格局在最后的16圈一定会无与伦比地精彩……讨厌的米其林轮胎。

石桥也不争气,慢热的毛病改不了,早就预料到阿隆索上来就会抄舒马赫,可没有想到库尔撒德也沾了便宜……

结局倒也算不错……只是kimi拿了冠军总有点不甘,很多车手奋斗了一生阿,都没他这么好运上来就是大车队。明年猛男就和他一队了……被灌坏的小孩加如同蒙古骑兵般狂野的猛男……麦克拉伦啊,真是BT

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可以说是今年最好看看的一站,除了十车连撞,该有的事故都有了。可惜没有雨战,虽说石桥雨胎好,雨战总不会难看。

kimmi是帅哥,支持的人就多,三次sc,可是给了这个分站冠军不少考验。
雷诺还是老毛病,起步好没用,关键还是动力。动力,动力啊,除了米纳尔蒂好像什么车都好超雷诺的。

蒙托亚的风格我喜欢,虽然要处分。麦克拉伦的车这站不错,就看意大利站的表现了,如果我没记错的话去年好像奔驰在蒙扎报废了一个引擎。

两个主持说皆大欢喜,我看威廉姆斯最不开心,看来要好好和米其林说道说道了。

领奖台上,kimmi和舒米好像没什么交流,不像奥运领奖台大家还打个招呼抱一抱。。。

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